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Joe Walker is…one of the most literate about this 'view of life', or an evolutionary worldview. My first podcast with him in February 2020… went three hours and is arguably the best introduction to my life and work.

Being interviewed by Joe Walker is fun for at least 3 reasons: he's damn smart and frighteningly well read, he's prepared a strong counterargument, and he uses no notes.

Interested in Oz politics, the economy, China’s global aspirations, or just general stuff? You might want to have a listen to The Joe Walker podcast.

A resonant interview - I felt we were on the same wavelength(s).